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Old 06-15-2017, 09:27 AM
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Which Marlin Lever Gun?

I have a chance to get either a .444 Marlin JM stamped or a 45-70 Marlin JM stamped. Both in Mint condition. I only have enough for one and they are both the same price at $450.00. Which one is worth more would you say? I would be shooting it once in a while. Which one would you get? Thanks for any input.
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Old 06-15-2017, 09:51 AM
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Well, there is some History in the .45-70 caliber. And it's also an excellent caliber.
My choice is the .45-70.
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Old 06-15-2017, 10:09 AM
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I went for the 45/70 and have never been sorry about it. It's a hand loaders dream - mild to wild - and for those who don't reload, it seems ammo is less pricey and easier to find.
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Old 06-15-2017, 11:58 AM
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Hands down the 45-70.

You can do all kinds of things with it and there are all kinds of components out there for it. .444 Marlin is a dog of a round anyway.
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Old 06-15-2017, 12:09 PM
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Definitely the 45-70.
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Old 06-15-2017, 01:55 PM
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For what it's worth.....Marlin is currently running a $100 rebate now on their 1895 series rifles.
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Old 06-15-2017, 02:11 PM
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45-70
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Old 06-15-2017, 03:47 PM
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No doubt the 45-70 is the more versatile, and more popular of the two cartridges. But, .444s are harder to come by and if you handload it is also very versatile. If you handload, go with the .444.
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Old 06-15-2017, 10:49 PM
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No doubt the 45-70 is the more versatile, and more popular of the two cartridges. But, .444s are harder to come by and if you handload it is also very versatile. If you handload, go with the .444.
I agree, but I hand load for just about everything and have Marlin lever guns in most of the chambering they've offered.
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Old 06-16-2017, 08:55 AM
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For what it's worth.....Marlin is currently running a $100 rebate now on their 1895 series rifles.
Anyone with half a brain stays as far away as possible from the Remarlin.
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Old 06-16-2017, 09:21 AM
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more options and availability with .45-70

that is my vote
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Old 06-16-2017, 03:19 PM
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My 444 will blow a hole through 3/8" boiler plate at 50'. Marlin once advertised it.
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Old 06-16-2017, 05:43 PM
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.444 Marlin is a souped up .44 Magnum. The same bullets fit both, but you need you can't use HP pistol bullets at .444 velocity - too fragile. Hornady makes tougher bullets for use in carbines.

That said, .45-70 is a lot more common, and a lot of fun to load and shoot. So much fun that a dozen rounds can make your whole afternoon (ouch). The traditional bullet weighs 405 grains, either jacketed or hard cast. The most common hunting round weighs 350 grains, mostly HP or half-jacket. At about 50 grains per load, you go through a pound of powder in a hurry.

I like lever guns, and have a Marlin 1895 "Cowboy" (4+1) with a 20" octagonal barrel, and a Winchester model 1886 with a 24" barrel (8+1). The recoil is about that of a .300 Winchester Magnum.

Someone on YouTube lined up 30 gallon milk jugs filled with water, and penetrated to jug #29. Another blew a 4" hole through a piece of ballistic polycarbonate plastic, 2" thick. On the other hand, it shoots like a rainbow, with a maximum hunting range of about 150 yards.
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Old 06-16-2017, 05:57 PM
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I would recommend the 45-70 as others have. About the only disadvantage is that a lot of the 45-70 ammo is loaded down because of old weapons chambered for that round.
Ammo and components are much more popular for the 45-70.
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Old 06-16-2017, 06:32 PM
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I would say the 45-70 as its more common of a caliber. .444 is kinda unique and round for round more expensive.
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Old 06-16-2017, 06:50 PM
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would like to think my Marlin JM 45-70 is worth more than 450. just sayin
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Old 06-17-2017, 02:22 PM
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45-70! Loaded rounds, components, reloading gear are all easy to find. Loads can be had or made from mild to wild.
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Old 06-17-2017, 04:35 PM
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OP. I'm now waiting for pictures of your new .45-70 Marlin.
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Old 06-17-2017, 05:48 PM
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My Wal Mart stocks .45-70. .444? It's parked next to the boxes of .416 Rigby.
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Old 06-17-2017, 07:07 PM
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If you plan on reloading the type of rifling might make a difference. I got my 45.70 Marlin Guide gun not long after they came out and it has Ballard rifling. Accuracy is much better with cast bullets in mine.
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Old 06-18-2017, 07:22 PM
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.45-70 is much more established. The .444 Marlin is a bit to propitiatory for me.
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Old 06-18-2017, 08:15 PM
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I have one 1895GS left (gave one to my son) and 4 .444's ... all JM Marlins of course. Both are very fine rifles and can be highly accurate if you reload. On my last elk hunt, I took the GS and one of my 444P's. I alternated rifles every day but got no shot. You will be golden with either choice and at $450, I'd sell my neighbor's dog and whatever else it took to get both.

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