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Old 06-14-2017, 04:41 PM
EMS/FIRE EMS/FIRE is offline
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Scary failure...

I was sitting on porch not moving, my pistol not being touched. I had the hammer half cocked. I had the pistol in a blackhawk holster with a round chambered. (rough neighborhood.). It went off missing my foot and the dog by inches (never seen his old fat behind move so fast.) No one was hurt, dogs fine, but there is now a hole in my porch. anyone else have the same issue? I have not modified it in any way except for a feed channel polish. I took it apart last night in the standard fashion and the only thing I did differently, I placed a single drop of oil at pivot point of the hammer. I love this gun, but I am honestly now about to trade it for a revolver.
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Old 06-14-2017, 07:40 PM
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Why half cocked?
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Old 06-14-2017, 07:55 PM
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cocked and locked or empty
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Old 06-14-2017, 08:28 PM
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WTH are you thinking? You're going to pass off a defective gun to some unsuspecting buyer who may end up getting injured? Contact the manufacturer and tell them what happened. If what you say is true, I'm sure the company will fix it.
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Old 06-14-2017, 08:32 PM
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The Half Cock is Not a Safety! You learned a valuable lesson!

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Old 06-14-2017, 08:33 PM
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Operator error
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Old 06-14-2017, 08:40 PM
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Scary event!
Thank god you and your four legged buddy are okay. Thank you for posting your experience and I' sure it freaked you out.

Now I will say what you now know...
Half cock is not appropriate for any Condition of readiness. Do NOT confuse what is designed as only a fail safe feature as a safe Condition to store, carry, stage, etc. a loaded 1911.

Very glad you are alright. Be safe out there folks!
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Old 06-15-2017, 05:43 AM
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Fix the hole in your porch and quit using half-cock. That half cock notch is only there to help prevent the hammer from falling in the case something happens to cause the sear to dislodge from full cock. Even that is a long shot with the thumb safety engaged.
If you had it in full cock with the thumb safety engaged, things would have worked out a little differently.
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Old 06-15-2017, 08:13 AM
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sounds like BS to me .
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Old 06-15-2017, 08:15 AM
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Damn.....that was lucky! Get that thing fixed.
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Old 06-15-2017, 09:26 AM
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The Half Cock is Not a Safety! You leaned a valuable lesson!
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Fix the hole in your porch and quit using half-cock. That half cock notch is only there to help prevent the hammer from falling in the case something happens to cause the sear to dislodge from full cock. Even that is a long shot with the thumb safety engaged.
If you had it in full cock with the thumb safety engaged, things would have worked out a little differently.
You've learnt a very valuable lesson in the operation of your pistol. As stated above, eliminate half cock immediately.
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Old 06-15-2017, 12:32 PM
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Have you never heard the saying, "Don't go off half cocked." There is a reason for most old sayings.
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Old 06-15-2017, 03:01 PM
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Now we will get recalls and '1911 is unsafe' threads, like what is happening with the Mark IV.
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Old 06-15-2017, 03:13 PM
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Have you never heard the saying, "Don't go off half cocked." There is a reason for most old sayings.
Cool! I never knew what that was about. Thanks.
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Old 06-15-2017, 03:15 PM
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Have you never heard the saying, "Don't go off half cocked." There is a reason for most old sayings.
Sounds like it did go off, half-cocked!
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Old 06-15-2017, 03:16 PM
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What was the pistol, I see no mention of what is was in the OP. Assuming it was a 1911. Very hard to believe it discharged from half cock untouched. The ammo and what gun was involved would be nice to know.
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Old 06-15-2017, 03:27 PM
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Curtmini14: It is not bull ****!! The same thing happened to me with a Colt Commander 45, except no dog involved. Because of children, I kept it loaded with the hammer lowered on the bed headboard. One night while loading it after cleaning and relubing lowered hammer and it caught on the half cock notch. Next thing I know, Boom, 45 caliber hole in new tile floor and unhappy wife. Also, almost had messy jeans. Never did that again, Kids or not. It stayed cocked and locked after replacing the hammer, and sear parts.
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Old 06-15-2017, 03:28 PM
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sounds like BS to me .
Agreed. I don't think there's enough force to send an inertia firing pin into the primer and ignite it.
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Old 06-15-2017, 03:33 PM
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Curtmini14: It is not bull ****!! The same thing happened to me with a Colt Commander 45, except no dog involved. Because of children, I kept it loaded with the hammer lowered on the bed headboard. One night while loading it after cleaning and relubing lowered hammer and it caught on the half cock notch. Next thing I know, Boom, 45 caliber hole in new tile floor and unhappy wife. Also, almost had messy jeans. Never did that again, Kids or not. It stayed cocked and locked after replacing the hammer, and sear parts.
Maybe you too will learn your lesson from all of this. Cocked and locked or empty.
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Old 06-15-2017, 03:38 PM
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Welcome to the 1911 forum.
The other guys already said it all.
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Old 06-15-2017, 03:43 PM
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sounds like BS to me .
Yep.

Even half cocked, it doesn't just suddenly go off for no reason. What about the grip safety?
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Old 06-15-2017, 03:49 PM
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Not the guns fault,half cock is a last ditch safety measure if you screw up,to hopefully catch the hammer if you don't pull it back all the way,which is another thing you shouldn't be doing,put in a mag,drop the slide,put on the safety..basically,you violated every safety rule of carrying a semi auto..
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Old 06-15-2017, 03:54 PM
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Not enough force at half cock to drive an inertia firing pin into the primer.
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Old 06-15-2017, 03:55 PM
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Never, never HALF COCK!!!!
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Old 06-15-2017, 03:57 PM
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I'm thinking you had to have done something....something had to get that hammer to come back a little to go past the half cock notch....Plus, you would have to have the grip safety pushed in also.
I really don't understand this story....In half cock notch there is very little pressure from the mainspring pushing that hammer forward, so even if the half cock notch somehow broke off, which is highly unlikely, I don't see the hammer having enough force to send the firing pin into the primer nearly enough to make it fire...??
You didn't mention if it was new to you, if it had been messed with or what brand it was, but I would not to sell it without disclosing that it has serious issues.
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